Well kids :), we end our last blog with a topic we discussed in the beginning of the semester, that of free will vs. determinism. If you don’t remember what that is, check your notes. :)
Remember when we watched a video entitled IT’S NOT MY FAULT about those people who committed crimes but felt that they were controlled by forces beyond their control. (At least that’s what their attorneys said.) Remember the one story about the LA riots, Reginald Denny the truck driver and the kids who threw the brick on his head? Well, following is a another story about that incident that you will find very inspiring.
STORY BEGINS HERE:
In one of the most disturbing images from the Los Angeles riots, six black assailants dragged Reginald Denny, a 33-year-old truck driver, out of his truck in South Los Angeles and bashed his head in with a brick. A television chopper broadcast the violence live. The attack happened shortly after not-guilty verdicts were handed down in the racially charged trial of the police beating of Rodney King, which kicked off six days of rioting that left dozens dead and thousands injured.
About a mile and a half away, Titus Murphy and his then-girlfriend Terri Barnett were watching the Denny attack on live television. Murphy, who was an unemployed engineer at the time, couldn't believe what he saw.
"When this gentleman was getting beat something was just telling me this isn't right, this isn't what it's all about," he told Yahoo News 20 years later. "When he got hit in the head with the brick something told me to go down there. I just reacted."
Murphy and Barnett drove about a block away from the now infamous corner of Normandie and Florence to see if the rioters would let them get any closer. Murphy saw that Denny had managed to drag himself back into the cab of the truck, which was moving very slowly. Murphy ran to the passenger side and jumped on the running board; he saw a woman named Lei Yuille comforting Denny inside the cab. Just then, a hulking guy named Bobby Green leaped on the running board of the other side. The two stared at each other through the windows, each fearing the other was a rioter.
"I asked him, 'Who are you? What are you going to do?'" Murphy says. "He said, 'What are you going to do?' I didn't know he was thinking the same thing I was thinking. I figured I had to take him on, he figured he had to take me on. We were both over 6 feet tall. I told him I was going to drive the truck and he said, 'I'm a truck driver.' That was the end of that."
Green jumped in and drove the massive truck a terrifying three miles to the hospital, with Murphy's girlfriend Barnett guiding the way by driving in the car in front. Murphy clung to the outside of the truck for the entire journey, feigning to be a rioter by pounding on the outside of the vehicle as if he had taken it for loot.
"There were cars approaching us and swinging bats and sticks and guns and stuff," he said. "I had to pretend that I was part of the riot so that the people in the cars wouldn't try to take us on or try to take advantage of the truck again. I started beating on the truck like it was mine. The trick really worked."
From his position on the running board, Murphy was also able to guide Green, who couldn't see through the truck's cracked windows. "Each one of us could not carry on the task without the other," says Murphy. "Bobby couldn't drive the truck without me on the outside. Mr. Denny was attended to from the inside [by Yuille], and we couldn't drive the truck without Terry in the front of us."
The result was a perfect collaboration. "We all came together as a team," he says. "It was like it was meant to be."
After extensive surgery, Denny survived the beating, but his speech and ability to walk were damaged permanently. His four rescuers, who were all black, became a symbol of hope in the devastating violence that engulfed the city for three days.
"I was just helping a person who was in need," says Murphy. "I didn't look at his race at all. Never thought about it once."
Murphy and the three other rescuers haven't kept in touch, he says, but he remembers them fondly. Denny has moved to Arizona and shunned media attention for most of the past 20 years, although he did reportedly accept an apology from one of his attackers.
Murphy now lives in Escondido with his wife and children. He worries that the anger of 20 years ago could bubble up again today. America still has a class of "have-nots" who need better opportunities to get ahead, he says. "In every major city in America and in cities all over the world the same thing could happen," says Murphy,"until we decide as a people that we work together and stop looking at things as race but realize we're all one."
STORY ENDS HERE:
Here’s a link to the same story as well with some video footage:
So, pretty cool story huh? Very different from the story of the attacker, or is it? Can these Good Samaritans’ behavior be attributed to forces beyond their control like Reginald’s attacker? Or did they have free-will, just like Reginald’s attacker?
Why is it that people have a tendency to attribute bad behavior to determinism but good behavior to free will? Should we have a double standard for good and bad behaviors?
Anyway, tell me what you think and have fun blogging.
Mr. Fong
I think we always put bad behavior with determinism because we are usually under a little bit influence from our emotions when we do it. I think to do bad or rude things completely out of free will is evil. I think free will is involved in every bad action. External causes might cloud our judgements though. So I definetly think there should be a double standard
ReplyDeleteBoth bad behavior and good behavior are free will, if you chose to do evil is because you chose to do evil regardless of the emotions you feel to do evil and bad stuff is a choice we can chose to control our emotions and what to do about it. We are not animals that act according to the moment we have the capacity to look at things coolly
ReplyDeleteI believe that we all have free will but i also believe we have some parts of our lives pre determined. I think that the families we are born into are pre determined. The men that helped had a choice to not go, but they did and I believe that it was a choice of free will. They could have just stayed at their houses and watched the riot continue. The attackers chose to attack Reginald and all the other people they did attack. I think that determinism is more towards things you cant control, and your free will is more towards everything you can control.
ReplyDeletei think they had free will just like his attacker did. there is always a choice to every decision we make.
ReplyDeletei think that we put determinism with bad behavior because our emotions tend to take over, and do most of the determination for us. When it comes to free will, i think that we still have emotion affect us, yet people would like to believe that we are doing good because we choose to. Free will is something that you can control, and everyone should put their free will to use instead of watching and wishing we could do something.
ReplyDeleteI believe we have free will in every situation. Our morals and values are what determine our decisions.
ReplyDeleteFor both the attacker and Murphy, they both had free will to choose their actions. Those people in the riot chose to do it and with every action there is a consequence, positive or negative. Jacob Bingham
ReplyDeleteYou have the free will to choose no one can make you do anything. You can make the choice but you can't choose the consquences depending on the choice you've made. I think our morals and values play a big role into it also.
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I feel most people put determinism and bad behavior together because you feel forced to chose something. This holds a lot of influence and when you have a lot of influence over you, you tend to pick the easier/most wanted route; however, when you have free will, you get to choose whatever you want! It's the feeling of being free.
ReplyDeletePeople are animals.
ReplyDeleteAnd will do anything to attribute their sins to another, so they're hands are "blood-free", and don't have to live up to the consequences of they're actions.
The reason they connect their "good actions" to themselves is so they can make themselves feel like they are better than they really are. As if a wrong cancels out a right.
One of his assailants forgave him, years after the attack, but ask yourselves this- What good is a mediocre sorry? especially after the damage has been done. The man will never be able to be the standard we dub "normal". He forever will be impaired until he breaths his last breath.
Free will is something that can either be used for good or bad. In this story we see how these raiders decided to inflict pain on an innocent person. However, we also see that there were individuals who used their free will for good by helping by helping this injured person. This shows us all that we can decide how we wish to use our free will.
ReplyDeleteI think that we attribute bad behavior with determinism because we as humans don't like to take responsibility of our bad actions. We don't like admitting that we have done something wrong. When we make a good choice or do something right we want all the credit so we credit our choice to free will. I guess you can say that we are very selfish creatures. We only want to take responsibility for something that will make us look good and overall benefit us in some way.
ReplyDeletewell free will or agency can be used for anything! good or bad! in this case it was used for good! I think a lot of the time also people are not grown up enough so to say to be able to say that something is their fault. naturally as humans we only want credit for the good we do not that bad. this is a sad reality in which it cases us to think of things that will make one look good.
ReplyDeleteEvery one has their own choice for what they do. For most people though, it is easier to blame something else when something you do or experience isn't positive. However, we always have the power to make our own choices, but don't get to choose our consequences. Our values and beliefs help us navigate which choices to make.
ReplyDeleteI feel that we all have are own choice, we should't blame others for that since we all have the opportunity to make the choice on our own.Its true that we don't like to take the blame for things we do,unless it is good. So when we do good it is are free will and not determinism.
ReplyDeleteGoing along with most of what my classmates have said, I think most people affiliate bad behavior with determinism because no one wants to accept or take blame for their wrongful actions. They want to blame everything and everyone except themselves. Likewise, in an opposite effect, free will is most often linked with good actions because people want to be recognized as the "Savior" in a situation and accept the positive blame for actions. Both of these situations can result in selfish reasoning behind the actions, but result in situations that are beneficial of non beneficial. And because of this, I strongly believe that we have the choice to freely choose between actions that result in good and/or bad outcomes, which in result outweighs the possibilities of blaming negative actions on determinism.
ReplyDeleteya i do think thats definitely a double standard in society, but i don't think it's right. I think the people who helped Dennys acted out of free will and so did Denny's attacker. I don't even like the idea that a mob or anyone at all could influence my decisions so i don't think anyone should be able to use it as an excuse either.
ReplyDeleteI think that all we should except our consequences based upon our behavior. Everything we do in this life is based upon our personality and that leads to our behavior. I don't think it's right when people do something and say it was their instinct or it wasn't their fault.
ReplyDeletePeople want a scapegoat when they do bad things, but will own up to anything if it's good. I don't believe determinism is real (at least for regular functioning people. If you've got mental illnesses that's different). You always have a choice. No one makes you angry, jealous, or violent. You decide to feel and act a certain way.
ReplyDeleteI think we all have free will to everything we do. We control how we feel and how we decide to react to those feelings in different situations. Of course people will want the benefit of the doubt to actions they regret and are about to get punished for whatever the action was. But no matter the situation you can not deny the fact that they chose to act the way they did. The attackers chose to attack and the victims chose to come together and help a complete stranger.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Jessica. we all have the free will to act on things. I know there are mental illnesses that prevent us from controlling our self. But we still have the choice to "attack" or not. The attackers did have the choice to act they way they did. and none of them had to a mental illnesses that could take over their actions. we each have the capability to stop the action of doing things that would hurt us or other people. So we should all really think about things before acting.
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ReplyDeleteBoth good and bad decisions are free will, Except for those with certain mental illnesses that may prevent our decision making skills. I think that people like to link the good things they do with free will just so they get all the praises and they also link the bad things they do to determinism so they have something to blame it on and then won't have to receive all the consequences.
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I think we have to take account that with ever decision we make comes with a consequence, even if it is free will.
ReplyDeleteFree will V.S. determinism both help each other out. While one may say that something inside them made them do it, there is always a choice whether to act or not. A part of you may want to go jump in and help a person, but another part tells you that you need to stay out of it for self preservation. I believe that is what happened here. The black people wear probably taught that when a "buddy" is in a pickle (fight) you are supposed to back him up. So when they saw this guy being beat up their nurtured instinct is to go protect. having been in a similar situation their brains did not find the immediate danger in what they were about to do. While they were on the truck their brains went on overdrive for self preservation in the situation that they got themselves into.
ReplyDeleteI dont think we should have double standards for good and bad behavoirs. I believe we have free will to choose our actions, no matter what circumstance we're in and our values and beliefs are what determine our decision.
ReplyDeletepeople tend to say bad behavior to determinism because they realize at the end that it was a stupid mistake. At the time the adrenaline is pumping and they are way excited, but when it is all over they wonder what they even did. With free will they get all the credit because it was themselves that did the good thing. Honestly people just need to grow up and accept their responsibilities. (As i write this at 1155 Wednesday night...)but in the end people are always gonna blame peer pressure for bad actions and say that the good things they did was because of their standards, ethics and morals crap.
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